if we assume that humans only have a full sense reality because we are sentient does that mean that we are providing our own reality through intelligent thought? or is it there regardless and, if so is it different than how we see it?
I think that the reality and the world we see is provided by us through our senses but is a world there none the less, although our view and interpretation of this world is very limited to the senses we have. Reason is the bases of our knowledge and our senses are the tools that we use to gain this knowledge of our perseption of the world around us. I believe there is many other things outside of our reality that we cannot perceive because we dont have the necessary tools to do so.
Well, human's sense of reality is based on how and what we have learned and we have been thought from our elderly. Because, human minds are like machines what ever is insert there it keeps it and at the same manner what ever from childhood our parents and elderly put in our minds we learn that and we gain knowledge from tat. Our knoledged compare tho this world is very limited there are many other things in this world that we dont know about them. For example in the past people were even less knoledgeable than todays bucause there was no advanced technologey and they didnt know any thing about all this in the past. Now people gained more knowledge and know more and in the future people will be more knowledge able than todays generation. So, all this depend on the knowledge that we learn from our elders and our invironment and it also depends on how we perceive things around us. Different people have different perspective toward interpreting things.
I believe that we perceive reality in a combination of those two ideas. Our perception of reality, like Moon said, is much different than that of our ancestors, because we have learned from knowledge gained in the past about the world around us and what is believed to be true. However there are many things that we perceive about reality that may be the same as our ancestors based on our sensory experiences of the world around us. Because we would sense something like the weather just as people hundreds even thousands of years ago would have, our perception of this reality would be the same.
This is an excellent question, Pro Tozo. I believe that we do create our reality through our intellect, and that what is assumed to be the collective view is what we consider to be the real, or normal, world. We can assume that "reality", at least to an extent, is an individual mental creation if we think about people with chemical imbalances that different manners of hallucinations. There was a man I would often see when I was working in Kensington market, who would walk around picking things up off the ground, things which from my perception were not there, and putting them into his backpack. For whatever reason, this usually made me a little sad, but who's to judge that the things I perceive are any more real than the things that he does? I suppose it's a democratic sort of thing, as in, if I were to pick something up from the ground and ask ten people if they could see it, hopefully, the answer would be yes ; whereas, if he were to do the same, I doubt the result would be favourable. This isn't applicable to your question, but it's an interesting take on perception. It's called "Two Views of the Mississippi", by Mark Twain. http://www.moonstar.com/~acpjr/Blackboard/Common/Stories/Mississippi.html
Interesting I ran across your question. I just finished replying to this exact thought. Anywhoo, to answer your question there is no external world. For all I know you could all just be a very elaborate hallucination that my mind created. What if at this very moment I was actually in a coma and this was all but a dream? It feels real but when I wake up that also feels real as well. How can one tell the difference if there is nothing to distinguish the two?
Also what you perceive can be completely different from what I perceive. The colour green might look completely different to me as it does to you. Take a colour blind person for example. Who's to say that what they see as colours are not the actually not the true colours? When someone sees a ghost and you do not are they just imagining things or was there actually a ghost? Reality is a matter of perception and belief. Just because a cow doesn't jump over the moon doesn't mean it can't.
I feel that the sense of reality that we feel would change drastically if we were not sentient. For instance, if the world as we know it were to end and all of the views of our modern living were done away with only for the world to be repopulated with primitive life forms that, in time, learned and became sentient, the sense of reality that they feel would differ greatly from our own because it would not be maintained with the views of our common understanding. We maintain our understanding by educating our young to this shared experience and the cycle continues. If were to change this, sadly it would not work because there are no other views in our realm of understanding.
To expand on my last point, I believe that if we, as a society, will never be able to experience life differently than we do now because we will never be able to ingest that knowledge that will make us capable of changing. We will only exist as we are until something radically changes all of the circumstances that are imposed on us or that we surround ourselves with.
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I think that the reality and the world we see is provided by us through our senses but is a world there none the less, although our view and interpretation of this world is very limited to the senses we have. Reason is the bases of our knowledge and our senses are the tools that we use to gain this knowledge of our perseption of the world around us. I believe there is many other things outside of our reality that we cannot perceive because we dont have the necessary tools to do so.
ReplyDeleteWell, human's sense of reality is based on how and what we have learned and we have been thought from our elderly. Because, human minds are like machines what ever is insert there it keeps it and at the same manner what ever from childhood our parents and elderly put in our minds we learn that and we gain knowledge from tat. Our knoledged compare tho this world is very limited there are many other things in this world that we dont know about them. For example in the past people were even less knoledgeable than todays bucause there was no advanced technologey and they didnt know any thing about all this in the past. Now people gained more knowledge and know more and in the future people will be more knowledge able than todays generation. So, all this depend on the knowledge that we learn from our elders and our invironment and it also depends on how we perceive things around us. Different people have different perspective toward interpreting things.
ReplyDeleteI believe that we perceive reality in a combination of those two ideas. Our perception of reality, like Moon said, is much different than that of our ancestors, because we have learned from knowledge gained in the past about the world around us and what is believed to be true. However there are many things that we perceive about reality that may be the same as our ancestors based on our sensory experiences of the world around us. Because we would sense something like the weather just as people hundreds even thousands of years ago would have, our perception of this reality would be the same.
ReplyDeleteThis is an excellent question, Pro Tozo. I believe that we do create our reality through our intellect, and that what is assumed to be the collective view is what we consider to be the real, or normal, world. We can assume that "reality", at least to an extent, is an individual mental creation if we think about people with chemical imbalances that different manners of hallucinations. There was a man I would often see when I was working in Kensington market, who would walk around picking things up off the ground, things which from my perception were not there, and putting them into his backpack. For whatever reason, this usually made me a little sad, but who's to judge that the things I perceive are any more real than the things that he does? I suppose it's a democratic sort of thing, as in, if I were to pick something up from the ground and ask ten people if they could see it, hopefully, the answer would be yes ; whereas, if he were to do the same, I doubt the result would be favourable. This isn't applicable to your question, but it's an interesting take on perception. It's called "Two Views of the Mississippi", by Mark Twain.
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ReplyDeleteInteresting I ran across your question. I just finished replying to this exact thought. Anywhoo, to answer your question there is no external world. For all I know you could all just be a very elaborate hallucination that my mind created. What if at this very moment I was actually in a coma and this was all but a dream? It feels real but when I wake up that also feels real as well. How can one tell the difference if there is nothing to distinguish the two?
ReplyDeleteAlso what you perceive can be completely different from what I perceive. The colour green might look completely different to me as it does to you. Take a colour blind person for example. Who's to say that what they see as colours are not the actually not the true colours? When someone sees a ghost and you do not are they just imagining things or was there actually a ghost? Reality is a matter of perception and belief. Just because a cow doesn't jump over the moon doesn't mean it can't.
can any one answer the question of wether we percive reality or not because we are sentinet
ReplyDeleteI feel that the sense of reality that we feel would change drastically if we were not sentient. For instance, if the world as we know it were to end and all of the views of our modern living were done away with only for the world to be repopulated with primitive life forms that, in time, learned and became sentient, the sense of reality that they feel would differ greatly from our own because it would not be maintained with the views of our common understanding. We maintain our understanding by educating our young to this shared experience and the cycle continues. If were to change this, sadly it would not work because there are no other views in our realm of understanding.
ReplyDeleteTo expand on my last point, I believe that if we, as a society, will never be able to experience life differently than we do now because we will never be able to ingest that knowledge that will make us capable of changing. We will only exist as we are until something radically changes all of the circumstances that are imposed on us or that we surround ourselves with.
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